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    !!!!!!!!!??ʹ??? B5 ????Ѻ?һ? ?ͧ?ҡ?? ??ٺ ?Ѻ ???ö??觔?????ͧ ????͹??? DENSO(VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON?)

    http://www.oknation.net/blog/preecha.../09/12/entry-1
    1 ????????͹??¶֧?????ö????͹??Ǣͧ DENSO


    ..... VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX, TRITON.....
    ?֧?ҡ?? ? ?ٺ ???????? ??????᫧???͢?С?Ѻö "

    ??ٻ????ͧ??? ????Դ????繨ӹǹ?ҡ
    ????ҡ?ù???Ѻ??辺?ö????? ???? BOSCH ?? FORD MAZDA
    2 ???͹??ʹ͢???稨?ԧ???
    ? ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ??????᫧???͢?С?Ѻö ?
    ??????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ
    ????ѹ??ʹ??? B5 ????͹???ҧ??褹??ѧ????ǹ?˭?????
    ???Դ?ҡ ??ͺ????ͧ?ҡ????͡Ẻ ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ
    ?????ç ?ͧ????ѷ DENSO
    ????????ѹ B 5 ?????Ѻ?һ???ͻ??Դ??ͺ????ͧ
    ?ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç?ͧ???ǡ? DENSO
    3 ????"??е?鹵????Ե?ӹ֡?ͧ????ѷ DENSO ??? TOYOTA"
    ????? ?Ե?ӹ֡ ?????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ????ѧ??

    ?Corporate Social Responsibility? ????? ???

    ? ?š??âͧ????ѷ ? ?Ӥѭ?ҡ???? ? ???Ե?ͧ?١???"

    4 ?ѧ???¤?û?г?? 㹾ĵԡ????ͧ ????ѷ
    DENSO ???????Ե?????? " ?ѵ?췴?ͧ"

    ??繤س??? "???Ե?ͧ???? ???¡??? ˹ٷ??ͧ??"

    ???ͺ???ͧ????¹ valve ? scv ?ҡ???? 4-5
    Ẻ???????????͹?????ö ????Һ

    ??觷????ö ? ?ٺ ???????? ??????᫧"


    5 ?ͤ??????????㹡?? ????͹???·???ѧ
    ???????ö??Ҷ֧??????????
    ? ???Ե?ͧ????" ?դ???ҡ???? "?š??âͧ????ѷö ?

    ?ҡ??÷??????ö¹????? ?к?????͹??Ǣͧ DENSO
    (VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON...)
    ??Ǩ???ҡ??
    ??ٺ???????鹢?????᫧ ??? ??Ѻö
    ???ѹ??????ͺʹͧʵ??췵Դ?ҡ????ͧ????ҴѺ
    "??ٻ????ͧ¹??????繨ӹǹ?ҡ???
    - ????ҡ????????鹢ͧ?ҡ?? VALVE ?SCV ?Դ?Ѵ
    ??Ǩ?ͺ???ͧ????ѧ???
    1 östart ?Դ?ҡ ????º?ѹ??觶֧?? start ?Դ
    ???Ҥѹ??觨дѺ????Ѵ?ͺ?????ԧ???ŧ
    2 ?????§????ͧ¹??Դ???Ԣ?? start ???§?ѧ "?? ??"
    ????͹???§?????ࢡ ??????º?ѹ??????§???????
    ???????ͧ?ҡVALVE ? SCV ????͹???Դ?Ѵ?????
    "???????ö?ѡ???дѺ?ç?ѹ????ѹ??ҧ????͹???
    ??餧????? 30 MPa ????ͺ?Թ??"
    -?繷?????ѧࡵ??? ?о??ҡ?Ô?ٺ??????᫧??? ?Ѻö????????????͹??Ƿ???Ե?ҡ????ѷ DENSO
    (?ҡ???ٺ????Դ??鹡Ѻö????????????͹??? ?ͧBOSCH
    ?? FORD MAZDA ??駷??ö??????????ѹ B5)
    (DENSO ?????Ԣ?Է??? ?к? ????͹??? ?Ҩҡ BOSCH
    ??ë????Ԣ?Է????繡?ë??? KNOW HOW

    ?¼????ö?ѧ?դ??????繷??е?ͧ??ö????Դ??ͺ????ͧ?ѧ? ???? ???ҹ??˹?㹪??Ե??Ш??ѹ ????ѧ??????Ѻ???????͹????ѹ????"?ҡ?? ?ٺ ??????᫧"???ҡ ??駺???ѷ????Ե ???? ˹??§ҹ?Ҫ??÷??????Ǣ?ͧ
    ????ҡ?ҡ?Ô?ٺ???????? ?Դ??鹵͹???᫧ ???? ??Ѻö ?ѹ??????ͺʹͧ ? ????Ҩ???????Դ????????§?????Դ?غѵ??˵????ѹ? ??µ?ͪ??Ե??з?Ѿ???Թ?ͧ??ЪҪ?????????ǹ???
    ??????ö????ջѭ????????ҹ?ѹ?????????躹??ͧ???㹢?й???·????Ѻ????Ѻ???????Ź???? ???????ͧ?????????ǧ?֧??????ʹ??¢ͧ??ЪҪ?? ???????ǹ??????ҧ???
    ??Сͺ?Ѻ?ҡ?Ó?ٺ ?Ѻ ???????鹢??ö??觔?????Դ???㹻???ȡ???????? 25 ?????
    ?????ٵ?ͧ??С????͹???"??µ?????ѡ??"
    http://www.naewna.com/news.asp?ID=384

    ??????????觡?Ѻ ö??µ?? ??ѧ????Ե??ӡ????ҵðҹ ???????͹ 25 ??Ҫԡ??ҹ???䫵?

    ?????ҡ????͹??¢ͧEU ?͹˹???к????
    "?ҧ????????ͧ¹???ѧ??ش?ӧҹ㹢?з??Ѻ????͹"
    ????ҡ?ôѧ????? ?ç?Ѻ?????ö㹻?.?·?????ҡ?Ô?ٺ ???????? ??????᫧?????ͧ????ҴѺ start ?ҡ
    ??ٻ????ͧ???
    - ö¹?????????????͹??? DENSO ??? HP3 ????͹?ѹ
    "?Դ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ?Ѻ??ҧ?ҡ?? ????͹?ѹ???"
    ?ѭ?ҹ???Դ??鹵????? 2548 ???ҡ??? 3 ????????
    ?Ե?ӹ֡㹡???Ѻ?Դ?ͺ????ѧ??????????
    TOYOTA (VIGO,FORTUNER,INNOVA,COMMUTOR)
    -DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش160 Mpa
    ISUZU (D-MAX , MU7)
    -DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش 180 Mpa
    MITSUBISHI (TRITON)
    -DENSO ???HP3 ??2?١?ٺ???ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش180 Mpa
    ??ǹ????????͹??Ţͧ BOSCH (MAZDA,FORD)
    - BOSCH Cp3 ??3?١?ٺ?????ҧ?ç?ѹ????ѹ?٧?ش160 Mpa
    (??з?????????????????????繵?????ҧ?ͧ?????ҹ ????????͹??ŢͧBOSCH
    *** ????? b100??ͧ???Ѻ??÷??ͺ???????ǡ?͹)



    ??͹??? ??Ҥ???ͧ?ҷӤ??????ѡ?Ѻ???

    SCV (SUCTION CONTROL VALVE) ?ѹ??͹.....



    ?ҡ?ٻ??ҹ?? ???ٻ ?ͧ DENSO ????????ö VIGO ,FORTUNER,INNOVA,D-MAX,TRITON.....

    SCV ?? ??˹?ҷ???͹ ????ҳ????ѹ???١?ٴ?ҡ?ѧ????ѹ ??ҹ??ͧ???? ???ͻ?͹????ҳ ????ѹ
    ???????ҧ?ç?ѹ??????ҧ????͹???
    ?¡??????????????????ҳ????ѹ????????????
    ?? ?Դ?ҡ???????͹???Ẻ SLIDING ?ͧ VALVE ? SCV ?Ǻ????Ҩҡ ecu
    ???º??º ??????㨧????? ??? scv ??????͹ ??еٹ?? 㹺?ҹ??? ???????ç??ҧ?????ҧ TANK ?纹?? ??л?????? ???ͤǺ???????ҳ??? ??????????????????ҧ?ç?ѹ??????????????͡??? 㹺?ҹ(??ǩմ)


    ?չ??????? scv ?ѹ?Դ???????͹???Դ?Ѵ????? ?֧?????
    ???˹? ?ͧ valve ? SCV ????㹵??˹觷???????????? ????͹?Ѻ??еٹ?ӷ???ҹ??? ??? VALVE ?ѹ??ҧ ???????չ????ż?ҹ????㹻??? ??????оѧ??
    ??? VALVE ? scv ??????͹?ѹ????ѹ?Դ?Ѵ ?ҡ????֡???Դ????(?֡੾?д?ҹ???º?) ?֧??????ջ???ҳ????ѹ?????һ??????????????Ѻ ?????????ͺ??? LOAD ?֧??????Դ ?ç?ѹ?????????ҧ????͹??ǹ??¡????ç?ѹ???????
    ?Դ??( ABNORMAL PRESSURE) ???
    ....PRESSURE SENSOR ??????躹?ҧ?֧???ѭ?ҳ价?? ECU ?֧?????ٻ????ͧ??? < /FONT>
    ??ʶҹ??ó?????Դ " ?ҡ???ٺ ???????? ???᫧ ??ٻ????ͧ???" ??? ?ҡ??? RESEARCH ????? ?Դ????ʶҹ??ó?
    1 ???ѹ??????????᫧
    2 ???ѹ????͡?ҡ??
    3 ???ѹ??觵͹??Ѻö
    4 ????Թ?ѹ ???
    5 START ?Դ?ҡ ????ͧ??? ?ҴѺ ??ͧ???ѹ??觨֧ START ?Դ
    ??ǹ?˭? ?о???? ??ٻ????ͧ??? ????????



    ???ͧ?ҡ ?͹?????ҡ??ѹ??觹?? ??ҵ?ͧ????ç?Դ?ҡ????ͧ

    ecu sensor ???˹觤ѹ??? ????????? valve ? scv ?Դ ?ҡ???????????ջ???ҳ????ѹ??͹??һ????ҡ???
    ?? scv ?ѹ?ѹ?Դ?Ѵ???ͧ?ҡ ? ????֡੾?д?ҹ???º? ?

    ?֧????? ?ջ???ҳ????ѹ???任?͹?????????????????????????? ͺ ?֧ ???????????ç?ѹ价???ҧ ????͹??? ???¡??? ???????( DESIRED)
    pressure sensor (1) ???? ??躹?ҧ?? monitor (real time fuel pressure) ????ѹ?Ѻ????? ?ç?ѹ???¡??????????

    ?֧???ѭ?ҳ??Ѻ价?? ecu ?????ż? ??Т????
    IDLE MODE ????
    ?ѡ??????ͧ¹?? ??????ѡ?Ҫ??Ե???Ѻ

    ??ٻ????ͧ?????? ?ٺ ???????? ???ѹ???????ա?õͺʹͧ?ͧ????ͧ¹??
    㹢?з????????᫧??Ѻ

    ??ش?????????ͧ???٨??֧ ????͡Ẻ???Ҵ?ҵðҹ???????Ѵ???ѧ????????Դ??? ?Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç???
    ??¡???֡?ͧ valve ? scv ??? ?Դ????֡
    ੾?? ???˹? ??ҹ???º? ??ҹ?? ??????֡???ͺǧ????ͧ????????? VALVE
    ?????????˵? ???????ö???Ѵ????? ????֡????Դ???੾?е??˹觴?ҹ???º???? ??????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ????ѹ???ŷ?? ?????? ???? ?ö ?????? ????ѹ???? B2 B5 V-POWER ??ǹ???ա???֡?????˹觴?ҹ???º?????͹?ѹ???


    ?????׹?ѹ???????õ? ????ԪҪվ ???ǡ????Ǻ?????? ???Դ????֡?ͧ valve ???੾?е??˹觴?ҹ???º? ????͹?ѹ??? ?Ѻö???????? ????͹??? denso ??蹹?? scv Ẻ???ء?ѹ??š
    ?ҡ??ѡ?ҹ????֡???Դ????੾?д?ҹ???º??ͧ VALVE ??鹡???????˵ط????Ѵ???
    ????֡???Դ???Թ????????Դ?ҡ?س???ѵԡ??????? ?蹢ͧ????ѹ??????....
    - ???Ƿ????֧?? ??û???¢??? ??餹??ѧ?????㨼Դ?Դ??? ö????͹??? ????Դ?ҡ???ٺ ???????鹢??᫧??? ?Դ?ҡ????????ѹ B5 ?? ??????ͧ͸Ժ?´?????ѡ?Է????ʵ??ѹ??Ѻ.....
    ???????? ˹?ҷ??ͧ ????ѹ??????ԧ ???Ũ???˹?ҷ?????? 3 ??С?ä??
    1 ?к?¤?????͹???????ǹ?ͧ??????????ԧ???????? ???Ǵ??¤????????٧???Դ??????͹?Դ??? ?? ????ѹ??????ԧ?繵???к? ¤?????͹???????ǹ???????͹???
    2 ????ѹ??????ԧ ??˹?ҷ?? ? ?????????蹪????ǹ???????͹??? ??к??????ç?ѹ?٧
    ?ѧ??? ??ʹ??? ????դس???ѵԡ????????蹷??ա??Ҵ??Ÿ????? ?֧??ͧ?????????ա???
    3 ??˹?ҷ??????????ԧ????ѧ?ҹ㹡?âѺ????͹.. ...
    ??觷???????͡ѹ ??? " ?????ʹ??? B5 ???Ƿ????????ͧ????͹??Ǿѧ ???ҡ???ٺ ???????? start ?Դ?ҡ ????ͧ??? ?ҴѺ ???"
    ??????????躹???෨??ԧ??Ѻ ????
    1 ?س???ѵԡ????????? ??ʹ??? B5 ?ա??? ????ѹ???Ÿ?????
    2 ????ѹ???Թ??ҷ????????ŧ????ͧ?????繹???ѹ? ??
    ????????Ҷ֧???Ǽշ?駷???????????ͧ??? ??????Ҷ١????????? ????ѹ???蹡ѹ??Ѻ ??????????????ѹ ??ҡ??????????????ҹ???ѹ˹?ҵ? ???????ҧ?? ????????ͧ?????? ???? ?Դ?ѭ?Ң?? ??Ҩ֧?? ????ѹ????͹
    ??Сͺ?Ѻ??û???¢?????ͷ??Դ???͡?Ҩҡ????ѷö?? ?Ҵ?????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ??Ѻ
    ???й?ö????ٹ???к͡??? ????Դ?ҡ?? ?ٺ?Ѻ ?????? ?????? ? ?????ʹ???
    ?ٹ????µ?Һ͡??? VIGO ????ͧ?Ѻ?????? B 5


    ?š?÷??ͺ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ??ʹ??? 5 ( Lubricity Property)
    ???? ?դ?ҡ???֡??? 334 ????͹
    ???? ??ʹ??? 5 % ?դ?ҡ???֡??? 194 ????͹

    ࡳ???ҵðҹ ?ͧ?????áԨ??ѧ?ҹ????????ҵðҹ???ǡѹ?????? ? ??ҡ???֡?е?ͧ????Թ 460

    ???ͺ??: ʶҺѹ????????????觻??????



    http://<a href="http://www.bangchak..../font></u></a>

    ?? Ҩ????????? ?ҡ??÷??ͺ?ͧʶҺѹ???????????觻?????? ?о????
    ??ҡ???֡??ͨҡ????????ѹ B 5 ?դ?? 194 ????͹
    ????դ?ҡ???֡??͹??¡???
    ????ѹ???? ?????? ????դ?ҡ???֡????٧?֧ 334 ????͹
    ?·?????ѹ??? ?ͧ ?????? ??鹡?????ö
    ??ҹࡳ???ҵðҹ?ͧ?????áԨ??ѧ?ҹ
    ??????ҵðҹ???ǡѺ?????š ????˹???? ??ҡ???֡??ͨе?ͧ ???¡??? 460 ????͹??Ѻ
    ( 㹡?÷??ͺ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ????ѹ??? ??Ҩ??????Ѵ????֡??ͷ???Դ??? ?ҡ?֡?????ʴ???? ?դس???ѵԡ????????蹷??? ???ࡳ???ҵðҹ HFRR ??????????????ö ?Ѵ??äس???ѵ???????蹢ͧ????ѹ???µç....)


    ??Ф?? ?ѧ????ǹ?? ?繤?ҷ????㹡???͡Ẻö¹???Ѻ

    ?ѧ??? ??Ҩ???????
    ????֡??ͷ??Դ???Ԣͧ scv ?????????Դ?ҡ ?س???ѵԡ??????
    ??蹢ͧ????ѹ ???? B2 B5 V-POWER ??????????ѹ????ء?ѹ??Ѻ

    ???ҡ?Դ?ҡ ??ͧ?ͧ???ǡ? DENSO ????ͧ??Ѻ
    ???Ѻ?¹?? ???????ѹ B5 ????Ѻ?һ?
    ???ͻ??Դ??ͺ????ͧ????Դ??鹨ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ? ?Ҵ???ҧ?????ç
    ???ҧ???????㨼Դ??餹?·??ǻ???? ??Ф?????š
    ????͹حҵ?͸Ժ?????ͤ??????㨷??١??ͧ??????? 稨?ԧ????Դ??鹤??
    1 ????֡??ͷ???Դ??鹷?? ?ͧ scv ? ੾?м?Ǵ?ҹ???º???ҹ?? ??????֡???ͺǧ??? ??????˵ط????Ѵ????? ????֡????Դ?????????????˵??Ҩҡ ?س???ѵԡ????????蹢ͧ????ѹ???? ???Դ?ҡ ??ͼԴ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç 㹡???͡Ẻ ??????ѷ?ټ?Ե DENSO ? ?????ѹ B5 ?????Ѻ?һ ?
    2 ?????ҷ?ҹ?????????ѹ ???Դ????֡੾?д?ҹ???º??ء?ѹ ????????ҡ???ٺ??ТѺ?????????ء?ѹ ?????繢?ͼԴ??Ҵ?ҡ????͡ Ẻ ????ǧ??????š"..
    ..
    3 ?????? ???ͧ?? ?ҡ??ٻ????ͧ??????????? ????ҹ?Դ?ح??ҵ??˹? off ???? start ???? ????ͧ?С?Ѻ?һ???????͹??????????Դ??? ???? ʻ?ԧ?????????? valve ???? valve ???Դ????㹡?Ѻ?ҵ??˹觻??Ԥ?Ѻ ö??ҹ? ֧ ??Ѻ?һ??? ????ҡ???ö??? 0 ???????˵?????ͤ?Ѻ ???е͹??ҹ???ö??? 0 valve ?ѹ???Դ
    4 ?ҡ????͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ?????ç??? ????? ö????????????͹??Ǣͧ denso ??蹹?? ?????Ҩ??? VIGO FORTUNER INNOVA D-MAX TRITON ?ء?ѹ?ͻѭ???ٺ ?ء?ѹ??Ѻ ????????Ѻ???Тͧ????֡ ????ѵ?ҡ???֡ ?¾???? ?ö??????? ??Ѻ???ѵ?ҡ???֡????ҡ????ö?????? ö????ҧ?ѹ??????? 15000-20000 ?????Դ?ҡ???ٺ?Ѻ????....



    6 ??????ͧ ????ѧ???¤?û?г??㹾ĵԡ????ͧ ????ѷ DENSO ??? ?ͺ???ͧ????¹ ? scv ?ҡ???? Ẻ???????????͹?????ö??觷????ö ?ٺ ???????? ??????᫧ ?? ?ش?ʹ෤?????" ????͹??? ???? ? ??ɮ??ͧ?Դ?ͧ?١ ??????Ե??????˹??ͧ?? ? ????ѧ??ѭ??????? ???? ?Ҵ?ҵðҹ???????Ѵ???ѧ㹡???͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ???ҧ ?????ç
    7 ???¡ѹ??Ш?¢?????ù?? ????͹??¼???餹?´??¤?Ѻ ??????ö vigo fortuner innova d-max triton ??????躹??ͧ?????????ҹ ?ѹ ????Ңͧö????????? ö??鹾???????Դ?ҡ???ٺ???????鹢??᫧
    8 ??ͧ???ҵá???ҡ??ѹ?Ѱ??ŭ???? ????͡ ???Ѻ?Դ?ͺ????ͧ??? ??Ъ??¡ѹ????? ˹??§ҹͧ??õ?ҧ??ͧ?š ???Ѻ??Һ????稨?ԧ????Դ??? ???? ?ͺ??? ?Ҿ?ѡɳ? ?ص???????ͧ?? ???١?????????? ?º???ѷ????? ???????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ???Ե???? ??Ф?????š....
    9 ????ѷö¹???????¹?һ??????ѹ??ʹ???B5?? ????Ѻ?һ????ͻ??Դ??ͺ????ͧ?ͧ????͡Ẻ???Դ??Ҵ??????ҧ????Ѻ?????Դ?Դ?????????ö????͹??????㨼Դ???µ?ʹ???
    ?觼ŵ?ͷ?ȹ????ԧź(Negative Thinking)㹡???Ѻ???֧????ª??ͧ????ѹ??ʹ??? B5
    ?觼ŷҧ?Ե?Է?ҷ???ռŵ?;ĵԡ?????????ѧ?ҹ??᷹㹻?????¹?蹤??
    " ??ú?蹷͹??????蹤??ҧ??ѧ?ҹ?ͧ???????"

    ??кҷ???稾???????????Ǣͧ???????
    "?????ǧ?ͧ???·?駻????"

    ???ͧ???ҹ?ç?Է?Ժѵá?û?д?ɰ?
    "????????ѹ????????蹺???ط????繹???ѹ??????? ?????Ѻ????ͧ¹?????"
    ??觹???ѹ?????????õ?駵?㹡?ü?Ե??ʹ??? (METHYL ESTER)
    ??觨ҡ????Ѩ?????Ҿ?ͧ???ͧ???ҹ ?ç?Է?Ժѵ? ?ç?Դ??????
    "??餹?·?駻?????????ѧ?ҹ??????????ö??١?? ?ͧ"
    ???´??Ҿ¹???㹾???Ҫ?????յ͹˹??
    ?Ţҹء??㹾??ͧ?????????
    ???㹢?з????ͧ?? ??ҹ?ç??Ъ???????? ?ç??Һ???????Ҫ
    ???ͧ???ҹ?ʹ???๵?ŧ?ҷ???ҹ???????Ҫ?ʹ???๵????͢????ҡ
    ??е??ʶ֧??????ѧ?ҹ㹻??????
    㹢?з????ͧ???ҹ?ç??Ъ?þ??ͧ???ҹ??ç?Դ?鹵?ʹ???????ͤ?????ҷ?駻?? ?Ȥ?Ѻ
    .....?????ѷ????蹷???ҵ?駰ҹ??ü?Ե ??????蹴Թ?????͡?????͡???ҧ?š????ҡ????????š?Ѻ????? ?????
    ??????ʴ??????Ѻ?Դ?ͺ??ͪ??Ե????
    ????Ե?????? "˹ٷ??ͧ??" ???µ?ʹ
    ??кԴ??͹????稨?ԧ??????˵? ?ҡ???ٺ??ТѺ??? ?ö ????͹??? denso ?Դ?ҡ????ѹ??ʹ??? B 5
    ???????????????Ѻ.....
    ???ҧ???????㨼Դ??餹?·?駻???????µ?ʹ.....
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    เเบบนี้เลยเป็นอยู่ครับ เเก้ไขอย่างไรดีครับ

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  10. March_Weber

    March_Weber New Member Member

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    B5 ของคนไทยซวยไปเลย
     
  11. sunautoposh

    sunautoposh New Member Member

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    ว่าแล้วทำไม vigo ที่บ้านเร่งไม่ค่อยขึ้น

    เจอตัวปัญหาแล้ว
     
  12. lancerck4

    lancerck4 Well-Known Member Member

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    ยาว แต่มีสาระ
     
  13. juk-ku power

    juk-ku power New Member VIP

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    ตกลงวีโก้มีอาการที่ว่าจิงป่าวคับ
     
  14. Bowling11X

    Bowling11X Member Moderator

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    แล้วจะมีวิธีแก้ไหนเนี่ย ฟอจูนเนอร์ผมก็เกินระยะรับประกันแล้วด้วย
     
  15. koyama_077

    koyama_077 New Member Member

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    Thank.........
     
  16. ~ Taohoo ~

    ~ Taohoo ~ New Member Member

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    หึหึหึ......รอดูกันต่อไปครับ
     
  17. toonkoshika

    toonkoshika New Member VIP

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    ขอบคุณมากครับ
     
  18. ขนมจีบปู

    ขนมจีบปู New Member VIP

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    ขอบคุง ความรู้ทั้งนั้น
     
  19. jung_za_

    jung_za_ New Member VIP

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    รถผมก้อเป็นคับ แต่ยี่ห้อเซฟโวเรต อ่ะ ขับอยู่กลางสี่แยกวอด เครื่องเร่งไม่ขึ้นซวยมาก


    ทีแรกนึกว่าเป็นเพราะน้ำมัน อ่านแล้วถึงจะเข้าใจๆ นี่เอง งง มาตั้งนานๆ
     
  20. pornnirun

    pornnirun New Member Member

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    ขอบคุณครับ
     
  21. Tucky Z

    Tucky Z New Member VIP

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    ผมก็อ่าน ไม่หมดนะครับ แต่รู้สีกว่า จากที่ไปอบรม มา vigo ตัวเก่า ใช้ B5 ไม่ได้ แต่ ตัวใหม่
    ใช้ B5 ได้ครับผม
     
  22. GDMN

    GDMN New Member Moderator

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  23. Hayabusa

    Hayabusa New Member Member

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    vigo 3000 cc เกียร์AT ของที่ทำงานซื้อมาปีที่แล้ว ก็เติมb5นะครับ

    รอบมาช้ากว่าดีเซสธรรมดาจริงๆ แต่ก็ขับได้
     
  24. sakawa

    sakawa New Member Member

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    พึ่งเข้ามาอ่าน และเพิ่งเข้าใจนะครับ
     
  25. bond 1

    bond 1 Active Member VIP

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    นาวาร่าก็เป็น ครับ เพิ่งเอาเข้าไปเครมปั๊ม คอมมอลเรล ให้ใหม่ ครับ ดีที่ศูนย์ ยังดูแล ครับ
     
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